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probag Bear
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Posted - 2015.12.11 20:30:33 -
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So erm, the December release did something. Either burner remote repair got messed with, or defender missiles got removed. Pre-patch, my max-DPS Polarized Rocket Garmur couldn't break anything without ECM. Now, I just got on and ran a couple of Anomic Teams, and my Garmur kills the main Burner ship without any need to kill/jam the logi. |
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Posted - 2015.12.11 21:07:47 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:probag Bear wrote:So erm, the December release did something. Either burner remote repair got messed with, or defender missiles got removed. Pre-patch, my max-DPS Polarized Rocket Garmur couldn't break anything without ECM. Now, I just got on and ran a couple of Anomic Teams, and my Garmur kills the main Burner ship without any need to kill/jam the logi. That is what is supposed to happen. It was broken.
I refit from ECM Garmur to TC + TP Garmur. It punched through a Burner Hawk like a hot knife through butter: OH'd the entire time and the launchers barely got a chance to take heat damage. It may have been broken before, but this just feels unfairly easy. |
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Posted - 2015.12.12 10:23:30 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:I mean if someone new to burners wants to ease themselves into it then I can suggest easy ones to do first and keep the hard ones like the Jag or the Worm for later.
Off-topic, but I'm honestly curious: why is the Worm considered one of the harder rats? For me it's one of the burners where I can switch my attention away from the Eve monitor once I'm within blaster range, and just press F2 when I hear the cap alarm. I run a single, OH'd, X-type Kin hardener (~50mil>) and it's overkill by a very comfortable margin.
The only issue I can see is if you haven't played around with missiles in a while, and get 3-volleyed during the first 20 seconds, when you're burning at 4-5 km/s towards the missiles. I don't know if that's enough to kill you since I personally had the hardener OH'd my first time, but that's only a one-time lesson that you never have to worry about again, unlike wrecking shots from the turret rats (Daredevil / Jaguar for my fits).
It can't be the speed requirement either, since I run it without any speed mods/rigs/implants and only have to heat my web for 1 cycle. What am I missing? |
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Posted - 2015.12.12 19:05:51 -
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You would lose multiple Griffin Navy Issues per Burner mission.
Ignoring the fact that you will get alpha'd if you don't lock and jam immediately. Ignoring the fact that you'll have range issues on the ECM. Ignoring everything like that.
You have a ~30% (0.66^3) chance of not successfully jamming with 3 OH'd ECM and ECM only lasts 20 seconds. That means you should on average lose at least one GNI per burner mission. |
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Posted - 2016.03.20 02:33:46 -
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I'm late to the party, but for me, a week ago, NOSes were working exactly the same as pre-patch on Burner NPCs. I have one on my anti-Cruor fit to power my web and I had no issues. |
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